Do I need planning / building permit to add an additional bathroom
We are thinking to add an additional bathroom in our unit - see attached images for current floor plan and proposed. Bathroom would be small about 1m x 2.5m. Entry would be from the Study on the right.
We would move everything in the kitchen up by 1m, keeping the same footprint.
Will this need to be permitted, inspections etc?
This is in Sydney
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Comments (4)You could reverse the layout of the ensuite, and have the door to it through the walk in wardrobe (so you would only have one door coming off the bedroom). If I were you, I'd consider swapping the positions of the ensuite and wardrobe, so the current ensuite door becomes the wardrobe door. That way you could move the bed to the east (right), and you would have room for a seating area in the north west corner of the room (as your bedroom looks huge!). I'd also add a window on the small bit of north facing wall in that room; you already have corner windows in the living and another bedroom, so you could match those in style. Personally I don't particularly like the current layout of the main bathroom, although I can see the reasoning behind it (i.e. vanity at entrance, toilet hidden behind wall, window above bath). I think it might work better if you put the shower in the corner where the bath currently is (i.e. beside the toilet, opening to the west), and the bath on the same wall as the vanity. You'd have to move the window, of course. Alternatively, do you actually need three toilets? You could remove the toilet in the main bathroom, and you'd have room for a freestanding bath and/or a bigger shower. You could consider stealing a bit of space from the kitchen to create some storage at the entryway. I'm not sure where your garage will be, but it's really handy to have a designated place at the point of entry for all the stuff you tend to dump when you first come into the house (schoolbags, coats, mail etc). Overall, I think the layout is pretty good, but you could potentially lower the build cost by making it all a bit smaller. It's really worthwhile taking the time to figure out just how much space you actually need, and where you need it. For example, if it were my house, I'd take about half a metre off both the east bedrooms (so the house is shorter from east to west), plus I'd make it smaller north to south by slightly reducing the size of all three bedrooms, and making the kitchen a bit smaller (so the hall cupboard lines up with the back wall of the small living room). But your priorities may be completely different from mine!...See MoreDoes combining a bathroom & laundry work?
Comments (8)It all depends on what you want to do in your laundry and what in your bathroom I guess. I appreciate the fact that there might not be enough space to do this but I store outdoor shoes in the laundry and the dog's leash and cleaning stuff. I need room to sort the dirty laundry into piles before washing it. I keep the ironing board in there and I need a tub to wash things in and to do flowers in and to put the odd cloth that wiped up the cat sick before it gets rinsed and washed.. heaps of things other than just washing. Couldn't manage with a cupboard laundry ( piles of washing on the hall floor when using it) and think these kinds of laundry functions might not make a gorgeous lavendery bath or shower feel that luxurious. So I am for as big a laundry with tubs, cupboard and bench nearest the outside back entrance and yes washing line as poss. And a lovely fresh warm bathroom near the bedroom separate from the dirty clothes and boots and all that other stuff....See MoreHelp- New build bath, bigger shower/double or single vanity
Comments (2)I have to ask, do you really need that bath when you have such a tight space? Unless you have tiny children (and remember that's a temporary situation!,) I suggest a larger walk in shower e.g. 1200 x 800 and heated towel rail on the wall nearer the window so its more convenient. Would definitely keep the double vanity for those busy mornings with storage under and you could add mirror fronted cabinet recessed into the wall above the basins to add more storage. Hope that helps!...See MoreShould I extend my kitchen or use my existing footprint? Advice wanted
Comments (2)I'd take a totally different route . It looks like there is that narrowish window in the lounge or dining area -- I'd look at whether you could make that into a ranch-slider ( yes , I am in NZ too -- if you say ranch-slider it confuses the Aussies haha ) . You'd need a structural engineer to make sure that wall isn't load bearing , and also electrical cables are able to be moved , but I'd suspect the load bearing bits would be the corners , and you'd be able to 'open up' that wall onto the deck . While it initially may seem counter-intuitive , you could then take out the door and that other taller window -- close it in and add a couple of small windows , or how about doubling down , and seeing if you can 'open up' between what you call the 2 windows above the stove -- have 1 long flat window along there , OR even do another bay window -- that will add more light , but also by taking out the opening door , you will get an extra metre of space , That way , you can do a different kitchen design -- maybe a wall mount oven , or a pantry , a breakfast bar in a different spot -- basically , plan the kitchen and the window placement at the same time . The advantages would be more usable space , more light , an indoor/outdoor flow but through the other room , not the kitchen . But with more glass actually in the kitchen , it will feel lighter and airier , plumbing won't be as much of a hassle , it will look better . The only possible downside would be the wall you put the ranchslider in will need to be kept clear , as you may lose a bit of space there , but the breeze and openness will make up for that IMO ....See More
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3 years agolast modified: 3 years ago@Beach Bathrooms and @oklouise - I am so sorry I just saw these responses!
I don't mind your thought OKlouise, I'm not sure I love the door of the main coming off the lounge though... but I guess with ensuite it could work.
Here is the full floor plan! please note this is a long term idea, trying to get an idea of how bigger job it is.
I realised that the waste outflow could be tricky, and possibly make this job impossible. This is a unit block by the way.
Pink lines are drywalls, that are probs not load bearing. All others are solid brick thick walls.
oklouise
3 years agowendalls
3 years ago@Beach Bathrooms @oklouise what do you think of this idea? Saves the current door to main bed. Uses a pocket door though into ensuite but this wall is solid brick, so not sure this would work.
Trying to keep the loos in close to similar position.
wendalls
3 years agolast modified: 3 years agoHere's another, I've moved the ensuite shower around, and made it 75 wide - we currently use shower over bath which is 75, so I figure it could work. This allows for a 72cm door. In the main bath I am thinking long bench with washer underneath and farmhouse style sink that could double for a laundry sink if needed. Dryer mounted up top, and storage below sink, and perhaps above.
Lounge wall would need to be shortened a bit to allow wide enough entry into this area though..
Thinking this might all work out actually!
wendalls
3 years ago
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