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Is this slope too steep for a cut and fill slab home?

last year

I'm wondering if my land might be too steep for a cut and fill approach to build a slab home. I'm hoping to avoid building on stilts since that option seems considerably more expensive.

Could the retaining walls be positioned differently to help reduce the overall costs or could the front of the property be simply battered/sloped and planted with vegetation to hold it rather than installing retaining walls? Also, regarding the Finished Surface Level (FSL) of the slab, the building designer has proposed setting it at 385 (please see the attached contour image). However, I'm concerned that this will require a higher retaining wall at the back. Would setting the FSL closer to 384 be a better option to balance the cut and fill and reduce wall height?

Appreciate any advice or sharing your experiences with a similar cut and fill.



Comments (11)

  • last year

    If you want a higher quality photo or dropbox link let me know :)

  • last year

    This looks like you should be building a floor at 385 and a lower level under the rear sitting around 382. Earthworks will ne very expensive on this block

  • last year

    You’d be best to direct these questions to the professional that designed the retaining walls. Are you locked in a contract for this house plan on this block?

  • last year

    No not locked in just did preliminary designs to investigate costs and options. I also have a stump home design.

  • PRO
    last year
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    100% way too steep - the block slopes 12m over just 50 metres...........better to design to context rather than spend (a lot of) money adjusting context to arbitrary design......that retaining on plan would be something like 4m high - yes you could have a more sympathetic landscape solution to the front but you'll push the house further back and either way the back retaining will have similar issue further down the site....better to consider a smaller footprint and staggered, split level, oriented more across the site to minimise external retaining expenses and have a more integrated home where you can access and use the land......you'll struggle to find an off the shelf design for this

  • PRO
    last year
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    Hi Ishan, I totally agree with Dreamer & Paul, regarding building to the context. If you want to keep all your living space on one level I would suggest building a Full Split Level home to avoid a 6mt high retaining wall at the rear. For one level living you could build a garage into the lower level and then the living level above. Many building companies offer Off the Plan Slit Level Home designs these days, or you could perhaps modify your existing house design to suit. (just search Slit Level Home designs).







    Hope this helps, Malcolm.

  • last year

    Thanks everyone for your advice. What would you recommend with regards to split level vs a house on stumps? Which option is generally the most budget friendly (I'm a first home builder). TIA!

  • last year

    You need to get quotes/information from reputable builders in YOUR actual area. Either way, you have purchased a block that will be expensive to build on.

  • PRO
    last year

    it really depends on the design and the specific relationship to the site/topography/levels.....cost conseqences in construction are dependant upon many different aspects but for this your topography and how well or not this is managed/addressed will be a significant factor......a split level design makes more sense for a block like this but whether or not it's on stumps or concrete will depend on the design/layout, the relationship of the building floor levels to the natural topography and how then the levels are set.....the idea is to minimise site works/retaining and the steeper the site the greater the challenge - it could be either of these or potentially a hybrid - it depends .....for example lower levels could be concrete and if upper splits sit up off the land then these could be better done as framed subfloor......you really need to be getting the right advice as at the end of the day the cost will be what a builder is willing to do the job for, and the more risky/challenging the higher the cost.......suggest you start with resolving the design/layout and then this can be appropriately engineered to the context....but that's the custom way of doing it and yes it may cost more upfront but this may be a better value construction spend....if you a trying to find and off the shelf solution then you need to be carefully considering the site and trying to align to potential options and seeing if you can make it work.........whilst it may appear "cheaper" upfront chances are for something like this costs will start to ramp up in a whole lot of ways with invasive site works/retaining etc so likely either way you're going to spend the money either on a more complex structure/design well suited to context or a lesser suitable design but "cheaper" that involves a lot of money being spent externally for arguably poorer outcome.....

    Ishan Smith thanked Paul Di Stefano Design
  • last year

    Is your block in a neighbourhood of Project homes? How long are you planning on staying there? A house that’s is custom when the rest of the neighbourhood isn’t, will take a long time to appreciate in value.