Can we extend a room without completely changing roof structure
I previously got some advice about a proposed renovation, but we are scaling the whole idea back and now trying to use as much of the existing house as possible. I will add additional details about the internal plan, but one of my big questions is whether we can extend the roof of a back room, to extend the whole room by 2m towards the fence (black lines drawn in picture, the slightly curved roofline behind that is the carport)? We need to keep similar intersection between the original gable roof of the house, and the lounge room (an extension by original owners) which also has a gable roof and intersects as 90 degrees to original roof. Lots of trees and leaves, so we are not willing to consider box gutters or similar to change the roof design.
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25 days agoHere is the original house and the proposed small extension to the back loungeroom to make it more usable. We are also planning an undercover deck as pictured, which would be a flyover roof sloping from existing house down towards backyard.
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17 days agoThe pitch extension seems fine . With the sloping room over alreasco it will need some fall for drainage. Check height at far edge it may need to start above existing gutter. You want some symmetry as dreamer has shown
roof line. Get tour designer to show you options of rear facade including the verandah and extension. Tying in the two with pitched verandah roof7
Phoebe Bradden thanked Kate- 17 days agolast modified: 17 days ago
the short answer is NO...extending the room as you've shown would involve super expensive structural changes for minimal improvement...this suggestion has a new kitchen location with central island on castors and a wall of cabinetry for pantry and storage in dining and opening the family room to morning light, eastern courtayrd and entry from carport...the new kitchen location, removal of wall between new dining and hall, changes to entry and extra slidng glass doors would help make the whole area feel brighter and more open with new entry to lounge allowing northern light into the centre of the house and consider Solar Skylights for kitchen dining, ens and entry but, you need to double check all dimensions as the ens as shown with biw on your plans is much too cramped for comfort and a smaller alfresco alfresco would be much cheaper ...costs would be dramatically reduced without any chnages to external walls and/or roof apart from a simple skillion roofed alfresco with transluscent roof panels
Phoebe Bradden thanked oklouise - 17 days agolast modified: 17 days ago
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@dreamer The existing roof is colourbond with a timber frame. The roof frame intersects with original truss roof of house, so a lot of intersecting timber in the roof. Here is a picture of the plans when that living area was added by previous owners.
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I personally think that the amount of expense to extend the lounge room and therefore roof line is not worth the expense. If you change the entire pitch on the lounge when making it bigger, it then is a domino reaction with the intersecting to main house roof. As I said previously, your budget will dictate this. I would consult a roofing specialist.
Phoebe Bradden thanked dreamer - 17 days ago
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Thanks @oklouise, a while ago a builder did suggest we could do a bump-out window seat more easily (and cheaply) using the 3m wide window width that is already in the western wall and just extending the roofline down. This is a mock up (with a deciduous pergola vine as one of the options for blocking western afternoon sun).
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