kaywilson3105

Gas Log Fire, Real Flame Element 1200

Kay
5 years ago
Hi
We have had a Gas Log Fire, real flame brand Element 1200 installed in our new build.
It was supplied without the trim, so raw plaster was showing.
The painter called the company, was told ‘no that model doesn’t come with any trim’
So he has done a repair, fix up job so the edges look tidy.
I now find we were charged for a trim that was never supplied.
My questions are, is it safe to work one of these without a trim & we get a refund?
It is below a timber mantle piece with a TV mounted above.
Sorry I don’t have photos at the moment, thanks in advance.

Comments (4)

  • PRO
    Feature Fire
    5 years ago

    There is a difference between 'is it safe' and 'is it compliant'. Nothing is 100% safe, things are only ever 'safe enough' to allow reasonable use. Gas appliances such as your fireplace are required to be tested prior to being sold so that the standards of safety that society expects are maintained. In this case the manufacturer would have had a sample unit installed in a laboratory and tested against the relevant safety standards (the fire burns efficiently enough, it doesn't leak smoke and exhaust into the room and it doesn't make touchable surfaces too hot etc). Once it passes the tests, the manufacturer gets a certificate that says this unit is safe to sell to the Australian public. Now that test certificate corresponds to a particular configuration of the unit and its installation - if the configuration is different, they need a separate test to cover that different configuration.


    So since your unit does not have a trim frame it would not be identical to the model tested and therefore would not comply - unless of course the manufacturer also tested it without the trim. So this is the question you need to get them to confirm.


    In all likelihood it is probably 'safe enough' without the trim, but if it is 'non-compliant' you risk an insurance claim being rejected (if say the fireplace caused the TV to fall off the wall somehow lets say).


    At the end of the day if you leave it without the trim frame, try and get a letter from the manufacturer and the installer stating that your particular configuration complies

  • Kay
    Original Author
    5 years ago
    Thank you so much for your time & reply
    I called another Franchise supplying this brand & they advised the trim forms part of the firebox & cannot be optional
    So we were given very incorrect advice.
    We are meeting with the company tomorrow at 9am
  • zaffa
    5 years ago
    Wow Kay. That’s very frustrating. Please post with an update after you meet with them tomorrow. Hope you get the resolution you’re after - the supply of the trim as ordered and paid for!
  • Kay
    Original Author
    5 years ago
    Thank you both for the replies.
    The issue was in fact a ‘naming’ one.
    Our builders workers rang the fire company asking for a ‘trim’ as the edge of the heater wasn’t flush with the wall. They meant a thin beading edging piece.

    The trim for this fire includes glass and forms part of the firebox.

    It was there all along, the fire had just been left a bit proud of the wall to allow for tiles, or stacked stone up against it.

    All it needed was to have been pushed back into the cavity a ‘wee smidge’